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January 28, 2005

issues of culture in ethnoclassification/folksonomy

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Posted by danah boyd

I love the conversations that have emerged recently on folksonomy/ethnoclassification/tagging/ontology (see del.icio.us tag folksonomy for a good collection of them). Of course, i’m particularly a fan of skeptical posts that raise the social consequences flag (thank you Liz and Rebecca). I wanted to bring up a few things about culture that i feel haven’t been really addressed yet. (My apologies if i’ve missed them.)

First, don’t forget Lakoff’s Women, Fire and Dangerous Things. Classification schemes are always culturally dependent based on how people organize information. There is nothing universal about the terms that we use, the relationship between those terms and the meanings behind them. Many terms are contested, used differently by different populations for different reasons and otherwise inconsistent. (Take a look at Raymond Williams’ Keywords if you want to see how different socio-cultural terms are employed over time in Western culture alone.)

What makes the tagging phenomenon utterly fascinating is that there is a collective action component to it. We love to see how people will come to common consensus on relevant terms. But part of what makes it valuable is that, right now, most of the people tagging things have some form of shared cultural understandings. The “in the know” groups using these services are very homogenous and often have shared values and thus offers valuable related links. This helps explain why Rebecca Blood is concerned about the MLK tags - they signify a lack of shared common ground. In tagging, quality is not just about ‘accuracy’, but about what cultural assumptions dominate. This is also the problem that motivated my earlier post on digital xenophobia.

The translation problem alone offers insight into the problems of collective action tagging (see Benjamin). There are tons of words that cannot be simply translated literally both for linguistic and cultural reasons (such as my colleague’s favorite - ohrwurm from German or any number of metaphors). And there are tons of words with multiple and conflicting meanings. This is why reading a translation of something is never the same - it’s not just a matter of linguistic translation, but cultural translation. That’s almost impossible.

Flipped around, the culture of the people tagging says a lot about how they use language that is quite valuable. We might want to see everything with a particular tag using the sense that we mean.

There is also a perspective problem. Think about the tag ‘me’ on Flickr. This is fantastic when we’re organizing stuff for ourselves, but such a tag is inherently dependent on perspective.

These questions have been raised as ones of ‘accuracy’ but they’re not. They’re about perspective and culture. Accuracy is only meaningful if we share the same cultural assumptions. Ironically, we know that culture matters at some level, if only via our collective choice to discuss FOLKsonomy and ETHNOclassification.

Given that we’re dealing with culture and structure, we must also think through issues of legitimacy and power. How are our collective choices enforcing hegemonic uses of language that may marginalize?

Design questions then emerge. How do we deal with conflicting cultural norms as more people are engaged in the act of tagging? How useful are tags across cultures? Do we only gain value from collective-action tagging amongst groups of shared values? If so, how do we implement that? And what are the social consequences for explicitly delimiting culture online?

[Also posted on apophenia]

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1. alex wright on January 28, 2005 11:57 PM writes...

For a good case study in cross-cultural classification, see Peter van Dijk's post on the Maoris vs. Dewey. Also, I posted a few thoughts recently on the downsides of inter-lingual tagging.

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2. Chris L on January 29, 2005 6:32 PM writes...

It seems pretty clear to me that the problems you cite here are problems of classification of any kind. The operational question for me is: do folksonomy's represent progress in some way *despite* sharing (to some degree) common problems inherent in any kind of system of categorization, classficiation, and assignment of value? The answer clearly seems to be yes.

I can't support Rebecca Blood's desire to have the photo stripped from the Technorati tag. It's obvious looking at the context of the photo that the user wasn't gaming the system, and while Rebecca may be offended, others (like me) think it is perfectly appropriate for Technorati to allow that diversity of actions and reactions around the idea of MLK to be represented, no matter that it is distasteful to some.

How is her reaction not itself a representation of a certain kind of cultural approach to representation (cynically: liberal until it offends me, then pro-censorship)? And wouldn't being a champion of that particular position (as Technorati would be, removing the picture and endorsing her position) be just as inappropriate, given your discussion above about cultural values?

From my perspective, folksonomic systems have a particular strength in just this area. They aren't the result of a hegemonic, top-down approach (none of which can claim to be "objective"), the very range that they allow means they are subject to pressues from the very subculctures and groups you write about (though some might consider that pressure itself a kind of gaming), and the marginalizing effects-- while undeniably still present-- seem less than any other sytem in use so far...

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3. Chris L on January 29, 2005 6:34 PM writes...

err.. folksonomIES, etc.

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4. nick sweeney on January 30, 2005 9:56 AM writes...

How do we deal with conflicting cultural norms as more people are engaged in the act of tagging?

Perhaps we ought to think about tagging along the lines of 'playing tag'; that's to say, a fluid game scenario in which tagging is an explicit act, a vectored act, from the tagger to the tagged? Tagging in that context is always a power relationship.

(Bring in Wittgenstein's language games, perhaps. Or interpellation? Perhaps a kind of 'soft interpellation' -- are tags a way of saying 'I know what you are, but what does that make me?)

Thinking about 'ETHNOclassification' also reminds me of the Pitt Rivers Museum in Oxford, a collection of ethnographic and archeological items displayed by 'theme' and use, not culture or geography; it also displays an implicit local ethnography in its famous handwritten tags.

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