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If done right, this can be quite beneficial for everyone, especially if, as reported, Yahoo! doesn’t try to swallow it and turn it into Yahoo! photos. Yahoo! has the resources to deal with backend stability which would allow Flickr to focus on iterating based on its users - a skill that i’m very in awe of wrt Flickr.
On a completely selfish note, it is my hope that the gang will finally move to San Francisco where they belong.
1. nick sweeney on March 20, 2005 7:24 PM writes...
On an equally selfish note, I hope Flickr stays in Vancouver, and proves that it's possible to go under the wing of a big corp while remaining away from the vortex of NoCal. Makes it harder for Yahoo management to merge the Flickr office with other Y! properties over time, at the very least.
(But saying the Ludicorpers belong in SF? Oh, danah: you will so provoke fights with offhand statements like that.)
Why on earth wouldn't you want Flickr's success memes to infect Yahoo? I work there, and I'm eagerly looking forward to the influence they have on the company, especially on our communty tools.
How come SA acquiring LJ was all "the culture is gonna be pillaged" while Y acquiring F is all "benificial to everyone"? If anything, Y seems the most of the four companies listed above that is the sort to pillage things for money, if only because they're public and motivated by stock, etc.
two key things: issues of longevity, which population is using it, current state of growth, heterogeneity of interaction
and i never said that culture would be pillaged - it's a matter that certain populations who gained much from the community would have to deal with a shift in audience due to it being brought into the mainstream. it's less of a matter of what SA would do and more a part of how it would be pushed out of the subcultural world
5. nick sweeney on March 21, 2005 9:48 PM writes...
Why on earth wouldn't you want Flickr's success memes to infect Yahoo?
I've been to Vancouver, Randy; I've been to Sunnyvale. And I think they have more leverage outside of NoCal, perhaps (in a pop-psych leap) because Flickr's community of communities, and the world at large, is simply more like Vancouver than NoCal.
I trust that Yahoo isn't going to repeat the errors of their own past, or of others' -- AOL's acquisition of Nullsoft strikes me as a case in point -- but as the saying goes: trust, but verify. Flickr has a surfeit of ideas and dynamism, but this ain't a merger of equals, is it? There's also the small matter that Ludicorp was the beneficiary of a grant from Téléfilm Canada for GNE, rather than taking the traditional path to the NoCal VCs...
(Which reminds me: we really haven't heard that much from the Oddpost guys since they got taken under Yahoo's wing in July of last year. A few AutoComplete additions in November, and that's all. Or perhaps I'm missing something.)
1. nick sweeney on March 20, 2005 7:24 PM writes...
On an equally selfish note, I hope Flickr stays in Vancouver, and proves that it's possible to go under the wing of a big corp while remaining away from the vortex of NoCal. Makes it harder for Yahoo management to merge the Flickr office with other Y! properties over time, at the very least.
(But saying the Ludicorpers belong in SF? Oh, danah: you will so provoke fights with offhand statements like that.)
Permalink to Comment2. F. Randall Farmer on March 21, 2005 2:39 AM writes...
Nick,
Why on earth wouldn't you want Flickr's success memes to infect Yahoo? I work there, and I'm eagerly looking forward to the influence they have on the company, especially on our communty tools.
danah's right. They'll have better leverage here.
Randy Farmer
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3. Evan on March 21, 2005 11:56 AM writes...
How come SA acquiring LJ was all "the culture is gonna be pillaged" while Y acquiring F is all "benificial to everyone"? If anything, Y seems the most of the four companies listed above that is the sort to pillage things for money, if only because they're public and motivated by stock, etc.
Permalink to Comment4. zephoria on March 21, 2005 12:51 PM writes...
two key things: issues of longevity, which population is using it, current state of growth, heterogeneity of interaction
and i never said that culture would be pillaged - it's a matter that certain populations who gained much from the community would have to deal with a shift in audience due to it being brought into the mainstream. it's less of a matter of what SA would do and more a part of how it would be pushed out of the subcultural world
Permalink to Comment5. nick sweeney on March 21, 2005 9:48 PM writes...
Why on earth wouldn't you want Flickr's success memes to infect Yahoo?
I've been to Vancouver, Randy; I've been to Sunnyvale. And I think they have more leverage outside of NoCal, perhaps (in a pop-psych leap) because Flickr's community of communities, and the world at large, is simply more like Vancouver than NoCal.
I trust that Yahoo isn't going to repeat the errors of their own past, or of others' -- AOL's acquisition of Nullsoft strikes me as a case in point -- but as the saying goes: trust, but verify. Flickr has a surfeit of ideas and dynamism, but this ain't a merger of equals, is it? There's also the small matter that Ludicorp was the beneficiary of a grant from Téléfilm Canada for GNE, rather than taking the traditional path to the NoCal VCs...
(Which reminds me: we really haven't heard that much from the Oddpost guys since they got taken under Yahoo's wing in July of last year. A few AutoComplete additions in November, and that's all. Or perhaps I'm missing something.)
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