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August 24, 2005

apophenia round-up: posts that slipped through

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Posted by danah boyd

I’ve been doing a terrible job at posting to M2M because i’m never quite sure what fraction of my posts belong here and what tone is appropriate. I’ve been actively posting to my personal blog apophenia and looking back, i realize that some of what i’ve written this month might be interesting to M2M readers. So here’s a listing round-up:

If you, dear reader, have an opinion on what you think is appropriate for M2M, i’d love to hear it in the comments because i’m definitely struggling with it. My personal blog gives me freedom to post whatever, but i don’t want to abandon M2M since i know many of you appreciate what we post here.

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1. Kris on August 24, 2005 5:53 PM writes...

wow - what an opening.

When I first found M2M, I was just getting into collaborative offerings for groups and teams - not for the relatively small (but growing) tech-savvy audience that was reaching out to like-minded individuals they'd likely never meet, but the much larger audience of tech-UNsavvy folks found in corporate enterprises, civic organizations, and social circles (the corporate and soccer-mom crowds).

As much as I enjoy your posts at zephoria and every other contributor at M2M, the focus is on the tech, tricks, and toys that appeal to the young, wired, disaggregated audience but really has little relevance to most of the early Gen-X/late Boomer crowd.

This is the age group involved with more social groups, professional associations, civic organizations, and kids activities than they can count. And yet that entire market lives by email and cell phones. Tagging, RSS, blogs, wikis, podcasting .... it's all Latin to these folks.

I'd really value some more discourse on 'Social Networking and Software' in the context of people (for any age group) who already know each other vis-a-vis those diverse organizations and could really apply simple, intuitive means to stay connected to those social affiliations. The buzz and marketing, however, is clearly geared more towards the other audience (FooCamp and BarCamp being 2 pretty good examples).

Don't know if this helps you're dilemma, but I couldn't resist the opportunity to point out the disparity between what I see here at M2M (which is all good BTW) and the reality of the relatively untechy world - although my kids are pretty impressed I even know about some of this stuff ;)

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2. Ross Mayfield on August 25, 2005 2:05 AM writes...

Kris, thanks for sharing.

I'd be interested in what others found when they first found M2M, a lovely thread to explore.

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3. Paul on August 25, 2005 7:40 AM writes...

Kris states that Tagging, RSS, Blogging etc is all 'latin' to most target groups and I am sure it is.
Therefore the question is whether M2M posts should be targeted at early adopters and the tech-savvy in the expectation that as our kids grow up it will become mainstream.
Or, should M2M posts be about taking these technologies into the mainstream now.
I think it is the former and as such I think I am looking for posts on M2M that help build the picture of how these technologies are being deployed today.
To answer Danah's question then I would say that the music tagging and social bookmarking posts are the most relevant from the above.

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4. Kris on August 25, 2005 12:26 PM writes...

Paul - you're dead on with the 2 choices - wait for the current adopters to become the mainstream or penetrate the current mainstream now.

I see a huge opportunity now (and I am a very impatient individual) but, unfortunately, the 'branding' is starting to solidify such that the current market may never grasp and reach out for it - the need may never be fulfilled.

I'm not pushing M2M to change its message, but, given its name, this is the closest forum I've found to bridging the gap between the two worlds.

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5. Mac on September 1, 2005 7:44 AM writes...

Intellectually drafted article. seems to grab attention at once.The writer has a good knowledge of the subject and makes reading interesting.

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